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This is from an Internet forum. An Orthodox Christian member named Marti asked me four questions about my post which described my experience with “Beings of Light” in the Spirit Realm, also known as “Angels.” Apparently these questions were meant to qualify me as a member of the forum, under their definition of “Christian.”
Marti stated: “I have what seems to me to be a reasonable question.”
My reply: It appears you have an assumption and four questions.
YOUR ASSUMPTION: “You claim to know... and I have no reason to doubt that.”
I never claimed to know anything by myself alone, except it is shown to me by the grace of my Father-God… and you do have reasons to doubt the words I have written, otherwise you would not need to ask questions of me.
I came to fellowship here and to share Truth. I hear of your faith and read of your great love for God. I marvel at the trials many here have overcome and the flowing of truth from member George, one who appears to be centered in the Christ, with knowing and not just belief. I see the courage of member Bryson, who would publish on an open forum his experience with Messengers of God, or Angels. Yet, one member named Peace would lecture me on the discernment of Spirits, and tells me my experience of Angels was of the dark force disguised as an Angel of Light. Then she tells me not to experiment anymore, and warns me that this testing of the beliefs I have is not good and can lead me to trouble. I know this was done in misguided love, a warning to help me avoid her idea of error. Then another tells me this warning is sound doctrine and what I have written is not sound doctrine, in response to my response to member Peace. Then the key to this issue is your post, asking me to answer a few questions that define the heart of your belief system. If I answer them correctly, you might give more weight to what I have written. Alternatively, am I wrong about that? Are your questions a reaction to the feeling that your beliefs are being threatened and attacked? I assure you, such is not the case. You are free to believe whatsoever you choose, and I am not here to turn you away from your beliefs. But as for me, I choose to test my beliefs and turn them into knowing and Truth.
“… and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” Jesus the Christ, St. John 8:32.
Now I shall answer your questions.
Question 1: “But for my own knowledge would you please tell me who you say Jesus is?”
Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God. My friend, my master teacher, the love of God made manifest unto me. He is the living Word of God. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one can come unto the Father-God except through the Christ! Christ is the stumbling block for all religions and even for some Christian sects, for Christ is not about Religion, but TRUTH! I could write many pages expressing what I know Jesus to be, but is that sufficient unto your knowledge? No, it is not, I am sure. You want me to say that Jesus has come in the flesh, has done so many times, and will come again!
Is that sufficient unto you?
Question 2: “And who are we in Him [Christ Jesus]?”
We are the body of the Christ, those who have come to believe in the truth and those who have come to know the truth. We are the Truth Seekers who wish to know and not just believe, for belief is a matter of opinion and can be changed by a stronger belief, but knowing is a constant, never changeable by any belief. So the body of Christ is made up of first, believers, for one can never know unless they believe first; and of those who know, who keep the truth alive and the goal before the believers. We are His army of Light, the Light Bearers of Christ, Jesus. We dispense the Love of God as the Holy Spirit moves us to do so.
Again, I could go on and on, but is this sufficient unto you?
Question 3: “What is the way to salvation?”
First, what is salvation? Is it the appeasement of an angry god who would burn us in an eternal fire for being disobedient to his will? Is it the offering of a sacrifice of blood that will quench his anger and make everything right again? Many Orthodox Christians believe this, calling it the redemption of sins, and all you have to do is believe it and you are saved from the wrath of this god, period. This thinking comes from the creeds established by majority vote in the Councils of the early Church Fathers and the writings they chose to put into the Bible to back up their beliefs. By their decree Jesus became a ransom for many.
Here is the Truth they chose to leave out:
Salvation is to be saved from error (sin), and to learn to walk in the Light and Love of God. The cross is only the beginning of salvation, just as belief is only the beginning of knowledge. The raising from the dead of Jesus was proof He had conquered death and that the gates of eternal life were open to any who would first believe on Him as the Christ, and do as He commands, to master self and become perfected. The way to salvation, to be saved from error, and to gain eternal life, is to walk in the Way, the Truth, and the Life, of Jesus, the Christ. Look to the cross and see the sacrifice, but never forget to look to the resurrection, to see the glory!
At this point, I really do not care if this is sufficient unto you.
Question 4: “And what is the purpose of our salvation?”
The purpose of salvation is TO BECOME PERFECT.
Ray of the Light
P.S. Shortly after I posted this, I was banned from this Internet forum.
This is from an Internet forum. An Orthodox Christian member named Marti asked me four questions about my post which described my experience with “Beings of Light” in the Spirit Realm, also known as “Angels.” Apparently these questions were meant to qualify me as a member of the forum, under their definition of “Christian.”
Marti stated: “I have what seems to me to be a reasonable question.”
My reply: It appears you have an assumption and four questions.
YOUR ASSUMPTION: “You claim to know... and I have no reason to doubt that.”
I never claimed to know anything by myself alone, except it is shown to me by the grace of my Father-God… and you do have reasons to doubt the words I have written, otherwise you would not need to ask questions of me.
I came to fellowship here and to share Truth. I hear of your faith and read of your great love for God. I marvel at the trials many here have overcome and the flowing of truth from member George, one who appears to be centered in the Christ, with knowing and not just belief. I see the courage of member Bryson, who would publish on an open forum his experience with Messengers of God, or Angels. Yet, one member named Peace would lecture me on the discernment of Spirits, and tells me my experience of Angels was of the dark force disguised as an Angel of Light. Then she tells me not to experiment anymore, and warns me that this testing of the beliefs I have is not good and can lead me to trouble. I know this was done in misguided love, a warning to help me avoid her idea of error. Then another tells me this warning is sound doctrine and what I have written is not sound doctrine, in response to my response to member Peace. Then the key to this issue is your post, asking me to answer a few questions that define the heart of your belief system. If I answer them correctly, you might give more weight to what I have written. Alternatively, am I wrong about that? Are your questions a reaction to the feeling that your beliefs are being threatened and attacked? I assure you, such is not the case. You are free to believe whatsoever you choose, and I am not here to turn you away from your beliefs. But as for me, I choose to test my beliefs and turn them into knowing and Truth.
“… and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” Jesus the Christ, St. John 8:32.
Now I shall answer your questions.
Question 1: “But for my own knowledge would you please tell me who you say Jesus is?”
Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God. My friend, my master teacher, the love of God made manifest unto me. He is the living Word of God. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one can come unto the Father-God except through the Christ! Christ is the stumbling block for all religions and even for some Christian sects, for Christ is not about Religion, but TRUTH! I could write many pages expressing what I know Jesus to be, but is that sufficient unto your knowledge? No, it is not, I am sure. You want me to say that Jesus has come in the flesh, has done so many times, and will come again!
Is that sufficient unto you?
Question 2: “And who are we in Him [Christ Jesus]?”
We are the body of the Christ, those who have come to believe in the truth and those who have come to know the truth. We are the Truth Seekers who wish to know and not just believe, for belief is a matter of opinion and can be changed by a stronger belief, but knowing is a constant, never changeable by any belief. So the body of Christ is made up of first, believers, for one can never know unless they believe first; and of those who know, who keep the truth alive and the goal before the believers. We are His army of Light, the Light Bearers of Christ, Jesus. We dispense the Love of God as the Holy Spirit moves us to do so.
Again, I could go on and on, but is this sufficient unto you?
Question 3: “What is the way to salvation?”
First, what is salvation? Is it the appeasement of an angry god who would burn us in an eternal fire for being disobedient to his will? Is it the offering of a sacrifice of blood that will quench his anger and make everything right again? Many Orthodox Christians believe this, calling it the redemption of sins, and all you have to do is believe it and you are saved from the wrath of this god, period. This thinking comes from the creeds established by majority vote in the Councils of the early Church Fathers and the writings they chose to put into the Bible to back up their beliefs. By their decree Jesus became a ransom for many.
Here is the Truth they chose to leave out:
Salvation is to be saved from error (sin), and to learn to walk in the Light and Love of God. The cross is only the beginning of salvation, just as belief is only the beginning of knowledge. The raising from the dead of Jesus was proof He had conquered death and that the gates of eternal life were open to any who would first believe on Him as the Christ, and do as He commands, to master self and become perfected. The way to salvation, to be saved from error, and to gain eternal life, is to walk in the Way, the Truth, and the Life, of Jesus, the Christ. Look to the cross and see the sacrifice, but never forget to look to the resurrection, to see the glory!
At this point, I really do not care if this is sufficient unto you.
Question 4: “And what is the purpose of our salvation?”
The purpose of salvation is TO BECOME PERFECT.
Ray of the Light
P.S. Shortly after I posted this, I was banned from this Internet forum.
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